Comments on: Student Diary Two http://safetyfirst173.wordpress.com/2008/10/05/85/ strategies towards minimizing danger in improvisation Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:13:14 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: teaching diary 08/10/08: diplomacy « Safety First http://safetyfirst173.wordpress.com/2008/10/05/85/#comment-21 teaching diary 08/10/08: diplomacy « Safety First Thu, 09 Oct 2008 11:39:32 +0000 http://safetyfirst173.wordpress.com/?p=85#comment-21 [...] brought up the notion of the consensus (as the process that drives, or goal of, improvisation). Our online [...] [...] brought up the notion of the consensus (as the process that drives, or goal of, improvisation). Our online [...]

]]> By: han http://safetyfirst173.wordpress.com/2008/10/05/85/#comment-19 han Tue, 07 Oct 2008 10:31:45 +0000 http://safetyfirst173.wordpress.com/?p=85#comment-19 But if the other performers are, say, all waiting for the others to make the consensus, are you not stuck in a loop? Can a consensus be reached if everyone is just waiting for it to happen? But if the other performers are, say, all waiting for the others to make the consensus, are you not stuck in a loop? Can a consensus be reached if everyone is just waiting for it to happen?

]]> By: kevinwt http://safetyfirst173.wordpress.com/2008/10/05/85/#comment-18 kevinwt Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:06:45 +0000 http://safetyfirst173.wordpress.com/?p=85#comment-18 The other performers and the audience? The other performers and the audience?

]]> By: han http://safetyfirst173.wordpress.com/2008/10/05/85/#comment-17 han Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:03:47 +0000 http://safetyfirst173.wordpress.com/?p=85#comment-17 <em>…My attention was being stretched thin and the quality of my playing really suffered because of this.</em> But what was the overall quality of the performance? Not just your playing (which may have suffered in isolation), but the aggregate, group sound? <em>…It comes from the group’s consensus…. Maybe a better way to put it would be that the music is the group coming to a consensus….</em> Aren’t you just shifting the goal posts? If it’s a matter of consensus, the question in a sense becomes, who (helps to) makes the consensus if not you? …My attention was being stretched thin and the quality of my playing really suffered because of this.

But what was the overall quality of the performance? Not just your playing (which may have suffered in isolation), but the aggregate, group sound?

…It comes from the group’s consensus…. Maybe a better way to put it would be that the music is the group coming to a consensus….

Aren’t you just shifting the goal posts? If it’s a matter of consensus, the question in a sense becomes, who (helps to) makes the consensus if not you?

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